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Topic: Trying to find optimal receiver for the money
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member Joined: Apr 14, 2010 Posts: 37 |
Hey all,
We're getting to a point where we're researching the next home theatre setup. The old projector is starting to give up the ghost, we've had to make use of a DTV converter box for OTA, and the PC that we use doesn't integrate well into the receiver, just audio.
What I'm trying to do is to find the optimal receiver for my application now and for what I plan to have shortly, and if necessary (and will likely be expected) buy a new display to go with the new setup.
I have the following players with the outputs as listed:
Pioneer Laserdisc player S-Video, Composite Video, Optical Digital Audio, Coaxial Digital Audio, Stereo Audio (note: Laserdiscs with analog-only audio do not use the digital ports, stereo audio must be hooked up)
Toshiba S-VHS VCR Outputs: S-Video, Composite Video, Stereo Audio Inputs: 2x S-Video, 2x Composite Video, 2x Stereo Audio Sony Blu-Ray Player HDMI, Component, S-Video, Composite Video, Optical Digital Audio, Coaxial Digital Audio, Stereo Audio
Pioneer CD-Recorder/changer Outputs: Optical Digital Audio, Coaxial Digital Audio, Stereo Audio Inputs: Optical Digital Audio, Coaxial Digital Audio, Stereo Audio
PC VGA D-Sub 15, S-Video, Composite Video, Optical Digital Audio (if memory serves), Coaxial Digital Audio, Stereo Audio
DTV converter box S-Video, Composite Video, Stereo Audio
I would really, REALLY like an amp that has built-in ATSC and QAM tuners, has enough S-Video for at least the LD and the VCR, and has the ability to upconvert analog signals to output to a digital signal to the TV. The computer is really of little consequence compared to the rest, I could change out the video controller for something with DVI and adapt to HDMI. We don't know if we're sticking with a projector or if we're going to go with a flat TV, but we're leaning projector mainly due to the safety of such a device if we have kids. I've seen too many accidents with video game controllers and simply horsing around that lead to broken big TVs. HDMI to the projector would allow for one fairly flat cable to connect instead of like I have to do now, where I have an S-Video cable and a VGA cable making the run. We'd also really like to avoid spending more than $600 for such a receiver, but I'm realistic in that I might not find everything I want for that. I am prepared to, if necessary, track down a Pioneer Elite DVD/LD combo player with Component Out if I can find one, and to stop using the S-Video on the SVHS VCR if I absolutely must, but I won't deny that I don't like having to do that.
Any suggestions for the right receiver/amp would be much appreciated. It'll probably be some time before I really get into the whole conversion (as it's expensive), but anything would be helpful. | moderator Joined: Mar 28, 2005 Posts: 13,330 |
With the computer, you really must be using a VGA connection if that is what you have, and then you can go to a HDMI connection just by getting a $50 video card. That is what I would recommend. For everything else, a receiver like the Denon AVR-2311 would do you very nicely. A bit more than your listed budget, yet it is a piece which should last your 10+ years without causing you any issues. It automatically upcoverts and scales all video to HDMI which allows for that single cable connection, and has a fair number of inputs to last you a while. http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?Catid=3d9614d1-8000-4106-ab91-8192242cab83&SubId=40b5820d-83c2-4e93-9909-60aae60e0bdd&ProductId=5662dda6-8fab-49c0-835f-7803af2aa1a3You will NEVER find a quality A/V receiver with a built in ATSC tuner. The world uses set top boxes (cable, fios, directv, dish) not stand alone, over the air products. So, if that is what you want to do, you would need to get a quality tuner. I've not had good luck with finding them personally, so I do wish you luck on that one. But, with 2 s-video inputs and a few composite and two component inputs, you are pretty much set for your lower level non-HD sources. As you buy new gear, which basically will only be HDMI, then it has 5 HDMI inputs to keep you covered for quite a while. While there are more 'bang-for-the-buck' products out there, they do not have the same build quality for the money that Denon does. AV Integrated - Theater, whole house audio, and technology consultation during the build and installation process in the Washington, DC metropolitan area. | member Joined: Apr 14, 2010 Posts: 37 |
Any thoughts on the Onkyo TX-NR708? It appears that Tiger Direct has it for about $610 after shipping costs.
I guess I'm a little bummed out, we went by the Bang and Olufsen store because some relatives of mine have a 30 year old system from them that still works and sounds incredible, but we certainly can't afford their receiver. It did have a built-in ATSC tuner though... *grin* | moderator Joined: Mar 28, 2005 Posts: 13,330 |
For the price of a B&O system with built in tuner you can rent a cable box (typically) for 3+ years. They tend to be VERY overpriced for what you get. Onkyo has a lot of flash for the money, but has one of the worst build qualities on the market for a full fledged receiver. So, you get a lot, but it may be buggy right out of the box for some features which seem good. If I was going with Onkyo, I would probably take a full warranty factory refurb... http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/category/AVReceiver/Home-Audio/Home-Theater-Receivers/1.htmlYou can save a lot of cash and still have a solid Onkyo product. Considering their overall reliability, I would prefer this route. If I wanted a 20 year product that sounds great, I would get the Denon. AV Integrated - Theater, whole house audio, and technology consultation during the build and installation process in the Washington, DC metropolitan area. | member Joined: Apr 14, 2010 Posts: 37 |
That's a shame about Onkyo, I've got an old stereo receiver/amp with separate pro-logic decoder that still works great, probably fifteen to twenty years old now. Only reason I stopped using it was a lack of S-Video. The current Sony is a pawnshop find, so maybe one of those factory recon units will fit the bill. I'm not afraid of used, basically everything except the VCR and Blu-ray was used, including the projector, and the old DVD player was too...
We'll see what the wife wants to do. She has veto power... |
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