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I am looking for a screen to use outdoors as a billboard/screen (exterior wall mounted). I am hoping to get some pointers on what is a practical solution. Size would be approx 2m*3m (6.6*10ft) area, would need to be visible in day from up to 40m (235ft) away. Cost, software and exposure (vandalism etc) are also issues of consideration.

I have seen multi screen displays i.e. 6 –9 screen running split screen graphic software that looked good. Any comments on what solution or combinations work at a reasonable cost?

Thanks in advance.
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Outdoor video walls, such as those you see in Times Square in NYC are not inexpensive, but they are designed for their purpose and are pretty darn cool.

Basically, they are made up of a bunch of smaller LED blocks. About two feet by two feet and you just put them together until you get the size you desire. Then, you run the video/etc. through their system and are good to go.

While somewhat costly, they are weatherproof and reliable and designed for the task you want them for. There are basically no plasmas, LCDs or, projection systems that can compete outdoors in any realistic manner.
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Thanks for the message. Yes I have done some preliminary research into this; I had Daktronics quote on a unit, well over US$100k. I have also looked at components in China at a fraction of the cost however they appeared to have a limited color range and I am told are no where near the quality and have had a lot of stats thrown at me to justify that fact. An alternative seemed to be multiple flat screens (LCD or plasma), obviously there would be some software around that could split the images, the screens seem to offer a good quality image, can be bought cheep enough and I would think one could build a weather proof housing. My preference would be for the LED purpose built unit but at US$100k plus it is just too expensive and I am apprehensive of punting on the Chinese version with little knowledge. There seems to be a market here for a midrange product, I myself have commercial buildings with approvals however when I compare the cost of a Trivission billboard $25k to LED at $100 - $200k it is difficult to rationalize. Any suggestions?

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I'm not an expert on outdoor digital signage, but I think that you may find that when you get away from LED signage outdoors at larger sizes, you are punting.

A speciality shop with outdoor signage will be able to help you a lot more than I can, but there are a lot of very real factors when it comes to digital signage outdoors. Yes, you can build an enclosure - how much will it cost? Weatherproof doesn't just mean wind/rain/snow, it must also keep out heat, humidity, and cold. So, it must be environmentally controlled and conditioned.

For LCDs/Plasmas you have about 1 product (plasma) that can be joined together to form a seamless product. This means that from any distance you are going to have thick 1"+ lines between the displays which will definitely distract from the final image.

Projection simply is not something I would consider viable at all in an outdoor environment.

$100K or so - yes, that seems very realistic to me. Everything else seems cheap. Bottom line would be that you will end up paying far more along the way for other solutions. As LCDs or plasmas fail, as alignments between multiple displays need to be performed, as entire boards go down, and not just the parts - but the serious labor hours need to be addressed to deal with those issues.

But - I will say one last time - I'm not an expert. I just have seen it on the commercial side when people have gone from the 'cheap' video wall processor to the 'good' version ($80,000+ price difference) and then swear they wish that they had just started with the better product from day one and saved themselves some headaches.
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I am Diana, come from Absen company that is a professional full color LED screen manufacturer in China. I can give you some suggestion and information On your 2m*3m LED displays. For you this size, I suggest you buy Pixel pitch is 10mm, especially use in outdoor. It is waterproof and dust-proof,especially designed for using in outdoor.The brightness of it is high,>8000cd/m2. The concrete size designed is 1.92m X 3.2m=6.14 Sqm,and it can be seen over 50m.The cost is about US$58k-62k, the quality is high.If you need, you could get products deliveried in 35-40 days after you pay the deposits.And for the installion, can offer you free training when you come to our company inspect the products, also can sent engineer to your country to guide you install, but all the cost for this will for your account.(Which country are you in?) If you want, you could find the site szabsen.com My mail is Diana-bai88 at hotmail.com AND diana at szabsen.com

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