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Hey guys!! ??

So my wife and I have just moved into a new place and we’re both pretty keen on setting up a theatre projector system! I know a little about audio visual stuff, but not a hell of a lot about projectors!

We live in Australia and am looking for a mid to mid to high-quality projector, 4K isn’t a must, although future proofing wouldn’t be a terrible idea! I hear there was possibly an Epson projector that did fake 4K that looked extremely good. Was hoping not to go much higher than $3000 for the projector, but if there is one that’s the bee’s knees, then I’ll probably push the budget!

So I know the room is an odd shape!! I’m not sure how wide screen should be, but if I don’t put a screen in the edge is 2.14m wide. So I mostly need advice on what projector you guys reckon I should get, and then if it should be wider than that, and then if you think I need a screen which one. I don’t need a retractable screen.

I do have a 5.1 surround sound at the moment, but the first guy to give me a quote said it would be better to get a new system, or at least new rear speakers that were flusher against the ceiling, as I’ve good, but big blocky wharfdale speakers. Also, he said it’s better to feed the signal through the amp and then to the projector, but I would need a new amp as it’s an onkyo one from 6 years ago that doesn’t support 4K. Although! I initially was thinking that projectors must have a HDMI so that I could just connect a google chromecast ultra that is connected via ethernet to an NBN plan?? Would that be fine or are there any negatives to connecting through the projector instead of through the amp?


We probably will get roller shutters or something for the windows to make the room pitch black! Unless there is another option??


Amazing chairs you’d recommend?? ??


All in all I think I may have slightly under estimated how much all of these was going to cost and am posting on a few different forums to try make sure I can the best bang for my buck!!

Also please, if there is ANY other advice you have please let me hear it!
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I'm not sure what you mean when you say it is 2.14m wide. That's a very small size and would, IMO, be far too small to warrant front projection as you can get quality 80"+ LCD displays for under $3,000 in the USA. I'm also not sure what hurdles you will be facing with AU$ vs. US$. I know pricing can often be outrageous.

So, just to kick things off...
You can't run video sources into a projector directly if those sources carry the audio. This has become almost a standard with new equipment being 100% HDMI. Projectors don't have audio out, just video in. Kind of like a computer monitor. So, if you want your audio, you need to run it into an A/V receiver first to pull off the audio and send that audio to your speakers, then send the video on to the projector.

They do make HDMI switchers with optical audio output which can be used and aren't terribly pricey, but really, if you are looking to go 4K, there are some other options you actually have... kind of.

Some UHD Blu-ray players (Sony for example) have 2 HDMI outputs, one to carrry 4K video to a projector, the other to carry audio to a pre-4K AV receiver. So, you can run something like that by using 2 HDMI cables to a projector.

Anyway, there's a lot you kind of covered, and I think the biggest thing is that you want to plan on 10" to 12" of image diagonal for each foot of viewing distance. So, figure out where you are sitting, then plan for that much diagonal. If you are seated 12' from the screen, then a 120", 133" or even up to a 150" diagonal are quite common.

Fixed screens from companies like SilverTicket (Amazon) or Elite's SableFrame are solid entry level choices.

For a projector itself, the Epson 5040 is a very solid choice on closeout right now. It may fit the budget, but may not at all depending on the other things you need to buy and what your actual pricing may be.

You may find that it is just better to get a solid 1080p projector right now like the BenQ HT2050a. It will give you a solid entry level image and will leave you some money to get a screen, cable the room, and start looking at other upgrades which may be appropriate to the space.

If this is all existing construction, then I strongly recommend you pull out the camera as well as some pen and paper and make some drawings of the room and post photos and drawings with what you are looking to accomplish.

In the USA at about $3,000 in a typical room, I would probably go with the Epson 5040, but if the room is good. That is, a room with dark paint, dark walls, dark ceilings, dark carpet, I would go with the JVC X790, which is more money, but worth it in the long run.

I'm not a huge fan of the entry level Faux-K DLP models, but the new BenQ HT3550 is getting favorable reviews, and the Optoma UHD51A is also pretty well regarded.
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Thank you for you reply!

I'll definitely look into the equipment you've suggested! And I'll consider getting that blu ray player as well.

And thank you for the rough distances! I measured the 2.14m wide as that was the most restrictive width I had to work with from wall to wall is 4m which is 13 foot but we'd obviously lose 1 or 2 from where our head would be. Either way you've given me the best information that I can work with!

Much appreciated!
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So I've had one of the guys who gave me a quote said he could organise a Epson TW9300 for $3400 aud which is about $2400 usd. Do you guys think I should do it? Or would the fan be too loud?

https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/epson-tw9300-home-theatre-projector/
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Quote (Littlebob86 on Apr 30, 2019 7:11 AM):
So I've had one of the guys who gave me a quote said he could organise a Epson TW9300 for $3400 aud which is about $2400 usd. Do you guys think I should do it? Or would the fan be too loud?

https://www.westcoasthifi.com.au/product/epson-tw9300-home-theatre-projector/

The Epson TW9300 is probably on closeout. It is the equivalent of the Epson 6040UB in the US and is their 'pro' version of the 5040UB which has been reviewed and purchased by tons of people.

There are a TON of reviews out there on the Epson 5040UB, including from Projector Central.

TW9300:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson_Europe-EH-TW9300.htm
6040UB:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Pro_Cinema_6040UB.htm

Equivalent models:
TW7300:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson_Europe-EH-TW7300.htm
5040UB:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Home_Cinema_5040UB.htm

Keep in mind, that you should check pricing on the TW7300 if any stores have it. The 7300 was recently discontinued because Epson just launched the new 5050/6050 in the USA and I think the 7400/9400 in Europe.

So, Epson is getting rid of the last of it's stock of this very solid projector and it certainly isn't a bad way to go as it has very good contrast for the money.

I would spend a bit of time to see if you have anything close in pricing on the JVC RS440/X590 projector locally. It went on closeout at the end of last year and it does a pretty solid job besting the Epson in terms of overall quality. Certainly doesn't hurt to check/ask about that.

Otherwise, the Epson may prove to be the best image and value that you can get right now. But, at least in the US, if I were buying, I would get the 5040 over the 6040 if the price difference was more than $500. In the USA, online pricing has the 5040 at $2,000. The 6040 is over $3,000. So, it does look like very good pricing on the 9300 for you and it may be tough to find a 7300 that is priced a fair bit less, but I would look.
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