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I am looking to add a motorized projector screen and projector.

The screen would be 150" diagonal. The projector would be mounted above the screen on a lighting truss approximately 11'-12' from the screen.

Requirements:

RS232 control of the projector
component input for projector


Budget is around $10-15k.

The projector would be fed 1080p via component from an audio authority HLX matrix.

During the day there is considerable ambient lighting.

Ive been playing with the projector search by requirement function but some of the projectors have optional lenses which don't seem to be accounted for.
[Edited by Fiasco on May 12, 2016 at 9:30 PM]
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That's a very short throw distance to a large screen.

You have a good budget, but with the throw distance, you have some serious issues, and the ambient lighting will compromise image quality quite a bit.

I would typically recommend a large ambient light rejecting screen, but your throw distance really hurts the ability for this to work.

I will add...

It is VERY unlikely that you are delivering 1080p from any component video feed. Component video is almost always limited to 1080i or 720p. If you actually have RGBHV then that's something else and 1080p is possible.

If the screen can be fixed position, then I might look for a grey screen and a projector from this list...

http://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=1&hide=0&st=1&mfg=&p=300&p=13000&w=&r=16&br=&ll=<g=&t=&db=&dt=&c=&ar=&dvi=&wr=&pjl=&pjw=&pjh=&td=10&is=150&i=d&tr=&oop=2&sort=brt&sz=15

Projector Central does take into account zoom lenses for many projectors, but if you change the distance to 12 feet from 10 feet you go from 38 options to 6!

If you go to a more normal distance like 16' (lens to screen) you get over 100 options.

Please be aware that projector prices typically do NOT include any optional lenses required, and you often will need to purchase that separately, which could impact your projector selection.
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Thank you for taking the time to post your reply.

The position of the truss is my limiting factor.

Although the room is approximately 35' deep, there is no good place to locate the projector in front of the truss.

Reducing the screen size to 120" @ 12' increases the options.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=1&hide=0&st=1&mfg=&p=300&p=13000&w=&r=13&br=&ll=<g=4&t=&db=&dt=&c=&ar=&dvi=&wr=&pjl=&pjw=&pjh=&td=12&is=120&i=d&tr=&oop=2&sort=%24&sz=15

And you are correct. It's 1080 interlaced.

Do you have any recommendations from the updated list?

I would also be doing a rigid screen instead of a motorized screen.

Da-Lite Parallax? (i need a wide viewing angle) that would bring my screen size down to 120"

My ambient light issues would be from the left side as the overhead ambient light is relatively non-existant.

Due to heavy usage should I be looking at led/laser?

I assume with the low gain and ambient light that a epson powerlite would be insufficient
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-LS10000-projection-calculator-pro.htm
[Edited by Fiasco on May 15, 2016 at 9:16 PM]
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Generally, you want a 1920x1200 projector. These are designed more for commercial spaces, and they can be set to be used with 16:9 screens, so you get 180 pixels which aren't used along the top/bottom. You still get a true 1920x1080, but far more choices since the WUXGA market is far larger than the 1080p market.

Going with laser adds a hefty premium to the up front cost, but increases overall reliability. Still, you may pay a $3,000+ price difference between the two technologies, which may not make sense if lamps are $300 or so each. That's ten lamps, which may last 6 months each, or about five years. Not sure if it is worth it or not.

You also have far more choices from traditional lamp models which could cut your price in half up front. So, instead of $10,000+ for a laser projector, you can get a traditional model for $5,000.

While I have built a search around 4,000+ lumens, you really want 5,000+ lumens if it fits the budget.

By comparison, this is the 1080p list:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=1&hide=0&st=1&mfg=&p=300&p=13000&w=&r=13&br=4000&br=40000&ll=<g=&t=&db=&dt=&c=&ar=&dvi=&wr=&pjl=&pjw=&pjh=&td=12&is=120&i=d&tr=&oop=1&sort=brt&sz=15

This is the same list in WUXGA (1920x1200):
http://www.projectorcentral.com/projectors.cfm?g=1&hide=0&st=1&mfg=&p=300&p=13000&w=&r=16&br=4000&br=40000&ll=<g=&t=&db=&dt=&c=&ar=&dvi=&wr=&pjl=&pjw=&pjh=&td=12&is=120&i=d&tr=&oop=1&sort=brt&sz=15

The jump is from 18 choices, to 85!

This would be my first recommendation:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Panasonic-PT-DZ770UK.htm

It's bright, and has no issue hitting 120" from 12' away.

In fact, if you move the lens so it is about 10' from the screen, and go to their .8-1.00 zoom lens, you can get a 144" to 177" diagonal, which is more in line with what you were hoping for.

The screen quandary...
Ambient Light Rejecting (ALR) screens are awesome, but come with major caveats.

The one you linked REQUIRES the throw on the projector to be 1.5x or greater for it to work. This is because if you are closer than 1.5x it would see projector light as an overhead light, and remove it.

I would probably go for a neutral grey screen like the HD Progressive .9 from Da-Lite.

http://www.da-lite.com/screen-surfaces/front-projection/high-resolution/hd-progressive-09

Plenty of framed options for that model.

You may lose a bit in contrast, but if you can get a bit closer, the wide viewing angle combined with a 145" screen (or so) will make for a very high impact presentation within your space.

This model also REALLY jumped out at me...
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Panasonic-PT-EZ770ZU.htm

The price is excellent, it has a couple of shorter throw lenses which may offer greater screen size options for your space, and the use of LCD instead of DLP should actually provide better brightness and color saturation in your space.
[Edited by AV_Integrated on May 16, 2016 at 7:24 AM]
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Again, thank you for your well thought out responses.

I'll research the information and products you have provided and may have one final round of questions when I settle on final product options.

My lighting truss should be in from fabrication tomorrow. Once installed I'll have a real world distance measurement from projector to screen.
[Edited by Fiasco on May 16, 2016 at 10:14 PM]