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Hi all. So my wife and I are adding a new room onto our house and she has given me the go ahead to put in a projector. I am a total noob to the projector world so thought I would get the advise of the experts here. The room itself is going to be 20 by 26 feet. The ceilings are 14 feet high and it will have a tray ceiling with indirect lighting. My first question is what size screen do you recommend for a room this size? I plan on doing a motorized screen and having several flat panels mounted on the wall behind it so I can watch multiple games during football season. My second question is in regards to mounting of the projector. I haven't settled on a particular projector yet but I'd like to be in the under $1500 range if anyone has any suggestions (still reading reviews on different models). Anyway, how would I go about mounting this unit? I read about having it just above the level of the screen. Since I have 14 foot ceilings would I use some sort of pole mount to suspend it from the ceiling and if so can anyone recommend any particular brands for the mount. It appears that the throw distance (26 feet) would be to far for me to mount it on the back wall but please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks in advance for any suggestions and advise. I've gotta get with the electrician soon to tell him where to put the outlets so I really need to get some idea of what I'm doing to do. Thanks.
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You need to run conduit to the projector location, install proper cabling for all your speakers, pick a head-end location for all of your equipment, etc.

A good tab-tensioned motorized screen is about $2,000 or more depending on the size you want. Cheap ones are typically over $1,000.

Lousy motorized screens, which must be replaced every few years are several hundred dollars. Please read through the FAQs in the screens forum.

The W1070 is a excellent entry level model. There are no real 'improvements' to be had in projectors until the Epson 5030 or 5025 or the Sony HW40ES which are all models over $2,000.

I would likely go with the Sony HW40ES if quality was fairly important.

Projectors have lenses with zoom on them, so projector placement will depend on your screen size and your screen size will really be determined by your seating distance and where you like to sit in a theater. 10" of diagonal for each foot of viewing distance is becoming very common for viewers, so a 150" screen is not at all unrealistic. Going much larger than that would start to get into projectors which are well beyond your budget.

Not sure on putting screens behind the projector. I would consider, if you can, putting screens throughout the space and include the projector setup as one of those screens. A fixed frame screen is the highest quality you can get, and screens can be had for under $1,000 with excellent quality.

On a budget, the BenQ W1070 and a fixed frame screen like this one make a lot of sense...
http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-120-Inch-SableFrame/dp/B00366S0UW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1429061113&sr=1-1&keywords=elite+sableframe

Both can be had for under $1,300, which leaves you more money for a decent surround sound system, cabling, remote, etc.
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Thanks for the reply. I think I am going with the W1070 and was looking at this 150 inch screen on amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-TE150HW2-CineTension2-Projector/dp/B001A810ZA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1429299512&sr=8-4&keywords=tab+tensioned+projection+screen+150

It has good reviews and price seems reasonable. Does anyone have any thoughts on this screen. The company makes another tab tensioned model as well for around the same price. I don't know if one has any benefits over the other or not.

If I'm looking at the calculator correctly it looks like I will need to mount the projector 14'2" from the screen. Did I calculate correctly? Lastly since this is my first projector I have a question about the loudness of the fan. Since it appears that the projector will be pretty much right above our heads when we are watching it is the fan noise noticeable to you at all? Any way to quiet it down or is there a particular model that is more quite than others? Just bought all the boxes and wiring to wire it all up so now just need to decide on a mount and iron out the final details. Any other advise for me? Thanks for all your help.
[Edited by leerph on Apr 17, 2015 at 12:48 PM]
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The screen you listed is a adequate entry level model. Elite can sometimes be hit-or-miss, but they certainly make a very price-conscious product. If it shows up and works great, then great. But, if you have issues with the screen, then it can be a fairly tiresome process to get the screen taken care of. Hopefully that won't be the case. It still remains a fact that the same sized screen, in a higher quality fixed frame design, runs less than half the price.

http://www.amazon.com/Elite-Screens-150-Inch-SableFrame/dp/B009WNUK4C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1429373075&sr=8-2&keywords=sableframe+150

But, I use a tab-tensioned screen and it does work very nicely.

For mounting distance...
http://www.projectorcentral.com/BenQ-W1070-projection-calculator-pro.htm

The distance you list is right in the middle of the available throw range. The lens to screen distance must be between 12'7" and 16'4". So, 14'2" is right between the two. Anywhere in that range is an acceptable distance.

You must mount that projector so the lens is about 3" above the top edge of the screen. You have about 1" of wiggle room on that. So, get a mount which offers proper height adjustments. I recommend the Chief RPMAU mount, which can sometimes be found on eBay for about $100.

BUY THIS:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHIEF-RPA-PROJECTOR-MOUNT-/321727197499?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae86f713b

If it goes for under $100 you have a deal, and the cheap mounts on Amazon are just that - CHEAP. There is no better mount that I have seen on the market, and buying a projector then using a cheap mount is akin to buying a nice sports car, then putting cheap gas in it. It just doesn't make sense.

Moreso, because when you buy a good universal projector mount, it will last you 20+ years, while the projector may only last 7-10 years, and the screen may be done by 15 years or so.

Anyway, the W1070 isn't really a quiet projector. It's kind of small and has somewhat noisy fans to cool it down. It doesn't have whiny fans, so you won't be annoyed by them, but you certainly will hear the fans in the W1070. That's back again, to the Sony HW40ES, which is not only a solid step up in projection quality, but it also is a nearly dead-silent projector.

You DO want a projector directly overhead though. Sound comes from vents on the sides/front/back of the projector. Not from the top or the bottom of the projector, so sitting under a projector is one of the best locations to have sound directed away from the seating position.

Depending on your situation, you can also put in a hush box to quiet the noise to the seating location, or just put in a piece of plywood or similar to help block sound from traveling downward, while leaving plenty of ventilation for the projector.

Hush boxes are sealed boxed design with good ventilation, to feed cool air to the projector, and exhaust hot air away from the projector into another room. They seal the noise from the room the viewers are sitting in and take it to another space. It's not that expensive, but takes a great deal of planning to do properly.
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Thanks for all the great info. Looking at the mount now and need a little more help. After doing the calculations with my 14 foot ceiling it looks like I am going to need an extension pole to lower the projector approximately 58 inches from the ceiling. Can you recommend a good extension pole for this? Also I see that they sell a CMA105 flat ceiling plate. Will I need to purchase that to use the extension pole? Will I need to purchase any other items/accessories to mount it properly?

In addition, I have decided to go ahead and spend the money on the Sony HW40ES projector you recommended above. Will this mount work on this projector or would you recommend another model? Thanks again for all the help.
[Edited by leerph on May 12, 2015 at 2:12 PM]
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