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We have a very old presentation system in our boardroom. We would like to get quotes from vendors for and upgrade from Analog to digital. I called the original vendor and have been given a price. Anyone there make a recommendation on other vendors in the Central NJ area? Many thanks!
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You should check with Infocomm to see which commercial vendors are in your area. Depending on your needs and the size of the installation, it may make sense to get some bids outside of your local market. Maybe pay for a few guys to spend a night at a hotel if the local pricing is overly high.

It really depends on your budget though and what you are looking to do.

Why not describe a little bit more about what you are looking for and I can give you some realistic pricing and expectations.

If you have a quote already, if you can post some numbers, I will be happy to let you know if they are realistic, or if something is a bit fishy about stuff.

Difference commercial companies handle A/V completely differently from one another, and there is a very specific commercial snootiness that completely misses some inexpensive solutions that work very well.
AV Integrated - Theater, whole house audio, and technology consultation during the build and installation process in the Washington, DC metropolitan area.
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Thanks for the speedy Reply.
2 Boardrooms, split with folding/split wall, manual control to open to one large board room. One side has a 60in wall mounted tv, the other side a projector and electric drop down screen. Both sides have connection to VCR/DVD/Laptop connections. Both sides have in wall Crestron touchpad control units. Each unit can controls one side of the board room (the side that control is in) or the room can be combined and the control provide for both. When combined, both TV and Projector display same image. If separate, they display different image. In ceiling mics and speakers for audio conferencing. Crestron touchpad has ability to dial and have ceiling mics and speakers for the person on the phone. (phone not needed at table)

We have one price so far to upgrade (mostly replace everything) to digital HDTV etc. Panasonic 7000 lumens wxga projector w/zoom lens, Draper 113" 16:9 electric screen, 70" Aquos 1080p display, 2 10" touch screens, 2 apple ipads to control unit without getting up to the wall mounted touch pad, TesiraForte professional digital signal processor, 20 table top BiAmp mics, USB camera Vaddio ZoomShot USB, bunch of cables, etc, field engineering, AV tech, Project Manager, etc. Total: $77,500 (labor alone is $35,000)
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For what all is going on there, that price may not at all be unreasonable. Is a complete replacement necessary or desired? Do you have a budget in mind for what you are trying to accomplish?

Table mounted microphones are a huge improvement over ceiling microphones. The issue being that microphones next to speakers is a very bad way to get good audio. Still, if you have it all in place and you are reasonably happy with your ceiling microphones, then there is no real need to swap things out.

Likewise, what kind of ATC (audio teleconferencing) system do you have right now? Biamp, ClearOne, Polycom, Gentner, other? This would be the audio mixer/DSP/ATC system.

What are you using for control right now? Crestron? AMX? Other? Is there a real need to upgrade all that gear?

Do you want both in-wall touchpanels (TSW-1050s) and iPads? With no VTC as a source, the TSW-750 panels seem like they would be fine, and if the conference room tables in both rooms aren't moving, then I would put two touchpanels on the table, and ignore the walls completely. Using a system from where nobody is going to be is a nice thing to do if you have an extra $3,000+ to spend.

The room divide/combine thing is a tough bit of programming to handle cleanly, and a room partition sensor really should be in place so that this all occurs automatically.

You may also want room occupancy sensors to tell if people are in the room so it can shut down automatically when nobody is present. This is especially nice with projectors which have lamps that must be replaced.

Everything is pretty high end in the setup. This isn't a bad thing, but you certainly can find a few price savings options in all of this. If your budget, or goal of a budget, is closer to $50,000 or $30,000 then you may have to cut/change some options up.

But, the equipment specified is really nice and will give many years of use.

Is the control system specified something along the lines of a DMPS-200 system from Crestron?

There are some 'cheaper' and 'really cheap' options which may cut down a bit on overall functionality, but save a lot of cash and still be usable.
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Hi again,
We did not get specific make/models on the equipment so i can't say for sure what Crestron products we are getting in the above price. Just that they are 10" and white. The price was from a Vendor in NYC. But the $35,000 for installation seems a bit much. It's not the equipment I have a problem with, i understand 7000 Lumens Projectors are very expensive, but the labor charge is almost half the price of the equipment.

We don't do any video conferencing or anything like that, so I do understand that we can remove that from the quote, but still, $77,000 with $35,000 being the labor?

I thank you for your responses and after getting your latest advice I am confident they are providing the best equipment to do the job.

The above mic are a problem for us and we wanted to go with table mic. Because the room splits, we have smaller sized tables that match the two board room tables that fill in the gap between both of them. I believe we have 4 of this movable tables to fill in the gap. They are proposing a wired plug in mic for those areas. The other mics for the two board room tables are to be drilled and mounted permanently.
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