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Nov 14, 2005 8:26 AM
Though some say throw angle doesn't affect them, I'm sure they mean "not much" as it has to somewhat. What person has the exact coffee table, seating, and screen height that work perfectly together for the particular throw angle for the projector? As AVI said somewhere, you have have to get the projector and then set up other things for its requirements. That's fine if you have unlimited dimensions, tables and/or ceiling height, choices on the number to seat, etc. But most people have limits in a certain room for the home theater and a set throw angle and limited zoom lens have to be evaluated for suitability.
The versatility in placement options for the Panasonic AE900U and the Sanyo PLV-Z4 is so much better than the HC3000's that Evan spent several paragraphs discussing the limitations of the Mits. When you pay $3000 for a projector, you should have more versatility in my opinion, and apparently his. He mentioned a ceiling mount on a 9' ceiling would mean the typical screen being 2 feet from the floor. Most ceilings are probably about 8' and I suppose that means a screen about a foot from the floor. Leaning back with your feet up and you'd have your feet in the picture. Likewise, you'd need a pretty low table to keep a big screen image from running into the ceiling if using the projector right-side-up.
One might think that DLP projectors can't use lens shift from so many of them not having it, but my Sharp has vertical lens shift that works fine and is extremely helpful in getting the image projected at the right height. I suspect Evan concentrated on this because it is important and in this day and time a good and relatively expensive projector should have lens shift.
Nov 13, 2005 6:24 PM
What review are you guys reading? It clearly states that the blacks are better than current LCD,
"When the Universal Pictures logo revolves into place in front of the blue earth, the logo glows a dazzling white against the deep black space in the background. Many DLP fans appreciate this, for projectors like the HC3000 handle these scenes with deep black and sparkling whites with greater dynamic range than any of the LCD competition. And indeed, the eye is naturally mesmerized by the sparkle of extreme contrast."
and as far as image,
"In terms of overall image quality, the HC3000 is one of the best values on the market as far as DLP projectors are concerned."
"Color saturation is as good as or better than any DLP product we've seen anywhere in this price range."
and bottom line,
"The bottom line is that the HC3000 performs as well or better than other 720p DLP products that cost a lot more. You cannot get a deeper black level in this resolution for this money."
Yea, you have to read between the lines a bit, but overall these are pretty impressive statements for a $3000 pj. As someone else pointed out, read the rest of the reviews as it gives clarity to this one. Such as,
"Thus, Sanyo has made an extraordinary statement with the PLV-Z4, which is that LCD can no longer be viewed as a second class video technology that must compete by undercutting the price of its DLP competition. Rather, LCD has the demonstrated potential to outperform DLP head to head, regardless of price considerations." Key word POTENTIAL. Hopefully the reviewers will see everyones confusion on this matter and put the HC3000 up against the top LCD soon.
Nov 12, 2005 6:29 AM
Thanks Jet for clearing up the chip issue on the new Mitubishi HC3000. Evan did point out very clearly (almost 4 paragraphs) the limited installation options, bascially stating to ceiling mount the projector due to limitations inherent in the optics, short 1.2x zoom range on the lens as well as the absence of physical lens shift.
Overall the picture quality was impressive but compared to the AE900 or the Z4 (recently was compared to the Optoma H79 DC3 chip projector) makes me believe the HC3000 is not priced right in the market. I guess the market will dictate if this projector is a wise investment,since the write-up by Evan indicates to me there are other new native 720p projectors that have a better price performance.
Nov 11, 2005 8:49 PM
Just read the projector central review of the Mitsubishi HC3000 and I thought it was a DarkChip3 projector. I noticed Evan did not mention what the chip was in his review. Can someone explain if this projector is a TI Darkchip 3 or a Darkchp 2 since the specs on projector central say its a Darkchip 2.
It was also noted in a recent projector show that the HC3000 was the first DarkChip3 projector in this resolution class to go below the $3,000 price point. I'm confused since I thought this DLP projector was going to be compareable to the Optama H79 or 78 which both use the Darkchip 3.
Nov 11, 2005 8:44 AM
I am building a dedicated HT room in my basement and have been shopping like crazy for a PJ. I have seen 3 diffrent HT's with the BenQ7700, and about 5 other PJs ranging from about $3K to $25K. The most impressive PJ to me so far is the Mits HC3000. Granted, I have not seen the AE900 or Z4 and have been trying to, but of everything else Ive seen I am going with the Mits HC3000.
I am still waiting for the review that this site is doing to make a final decision. They said last week that it was on the test bench so I am hoping by next week we will see the review. I would look at the Mits before you decide as it is right in the price range you are looking at.
If anyone else has any info on the Mits I would appreciate your views.
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